Rice: ‘Palestinian Authority Taking Right Steps’
U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says the United States
will help the new Palestinian leadership as it implements security
and democratic reforms.
Ms. Rice was
speaking in the West Bank city of Ramallah after talks with Palestinian
President Mahmoud Abbas Monday. She said the United States is
pleased to note that the Palestinian Authority is taking steps
in the right direction.
She also announced
that to improve the lives of the Palestinian people Washington
will provide an immediate aid of $40 million, which is part of
President Bush’s pledge of a total $360 million in aid.
who has been urging both Israel and the Palestinians to seize
the current opportunity for peace, again mentioned that Israel
has to make the hard decisions needed to promote peace and the
emergence of a democratic Palestinian state. She also said the
Palestinians must curtail extremist attacks against Israel.
Ms. Rice met
in Jerusalem Sunday with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.
and Mr. Abbas are to meet in Egypt Tuesday in the first Israeli-Palestinian
summit in four years.
with the Secretary of State’s Visit to the Middle East:
Interview of U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza
Rice With Shireen Younes of Abu Dhabi TV
** PM Sharon: PA Must
Do More to Stop Attacks
U.S. Could Train “Unified” Palestinian
** Remarks by U.S.
State Department Deputy Spokesman, Adam Ereli
of U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice With Shireen Younes
of Abu Dhabi TV
QUESTION: Welcome to Abu Dhabi TV and to Al-Majal News Magazine.
I will ask you first all about the Summit tomorrow. The United
States of America is a major player in the solution of the Israeli
Palestinian conflict. Why wouldn’t an American senior official
participate in this summit tomorrow?
RICE: Well, we think it is a very positive development that the
Israelis and Palestinians are going to Sharm el-Sheikh. We think
it is an extremely positive development that Egypt has convened
this summit and that Jordan will be there. Sometimes it is a very
good thing that the parties themselves and the regional actors
are able to move the process along and we are very supportive
of that. I have talked with my Egyptian colleague and with my
Jordanian colleague, and of course I have been here with Prime
Minister Sharon and with President Abbas. So, the United States
will be very involved, but it is also a very good thing, particularly
when regional actors like Egypt and Jordan are leading it and
Madame Secretary, do you expect that this Summit will succeed
even though we have the conflicts and positions between the Israelis
and the Palestinians? The Israelis want to focus more on the security
issues while the Palestinians will focus on their problems like
fees, the checkpoints and the withdrawal from the Palestinian
cities. Would you think that this will succeed?
RICE: Well, we will encourage the parties and I am sure that they
will come in the spirit of putting everything on the table. That
is a concern to both parties. That is the role that we are now
on. That is why there is some optimism, as both sides seem to
understand that it is a time to try to make progress. Of course
the security issues are critical, not just for Israelis but for
Palestinians too. A better security environment will make it possible
for Israelis to withdraw from Palestinian cities, it will make
it possible for the Palestinians to resume a more normal life
in terms of commerce, in terms of the freedom of movement, and
a better security environment will, of course, then allow further
progress toward the others goals of the parties. So, security
environment is very important. So too are the issues that the
Palestinians will bring about checkpoints and freedom of movement,
about the route of the fence, but these are all related, and so
! it is a good thing that both parties bring their concerns so
that they can be addressed at this summit.
On many occasions your Excellency has spoken about the important
of the supporting a new Palestinian leadership. Which kind of
support is the American administration planning to offer the Palestinians?
RICE: Well, it is very important to support the new Palestinian
leadership and also a democratic reform in the Palestinian territories,
the Palestinian Authority. I will be speaking with President Abbas
about some of the steps that we can take. The President announced
in his State of the Union that we will make available to the Palestinians
more assistance for humanitarian purposes and for reconstruction
and development. We will also be working with others in the Quartet,
in the EU in the World Bank to try and promote re-construction
and development and assistance. The Palestinian people deserve
a better life than they have had. I think you are seeing the international
community rally around the Palestinian leadership. The Palestinian
leadership will have to make some difficult choices, to do some
hard things concerning security, but they will find very good
partners in the international community, and the United States
will be foremost among them. ! ar
Does the American administration consider the disengagement plan
a part of the Roadmap? Don’t you think it shouldn’t
be a dual plan with the Palestinians?
RICE: The disengagement plan is an historic opportunity for the
Palestinians to have territory returned to them, that can then
begin to be the foundation for a new state. It is of course not
just for Gaza, but four settlements in the West Bank, so there
is a link between the Gaza and the West Bank in the plan. It will
help the parties get back unto the Roadmap which is a specific
series of steps that must be taken. But it is a very positive
development, and we really hope that the Palestinian leadership
will take advantage of this opportunity to move forward.
Despite the Israelis’ commitment in the Roadmap to dismantle
illegal settlements, a new report by Shalom Achshav, or Peace
Now movement, shows that Israel hasn’t dismantled any of
these illegal settlements. What is your position? Did you discuss
this issue with Prime Minister Ariel Sharon yesterday?
RICE: Well we have been very clear that we do not think that settlement
activity contributes to the prospects for peace. Indeed in the
Roadmap there are obligations concerning a freeze on settlements.
I would note that the withdrawal from the Gaza of course, will
result in the dismantling of settlements as will the withdrawal
from four settlements in the West Bank. So, we can see some potential
progress there. I have talked with Prime Minister Sharon about
the understandings that I had when I was National Security Advisor
with his Special Advisor, Mr. Dubi Weisglass. And we have asked
and said to the Israelis that it is important to make progress
on all of those, and that includes for instance the dismantling
of illegal outposts.
The prisoners’ issue is of great significance to the Palestinians,
but Israel is not showing enough flexibility in the issue. Do
you see a kind of any involvement, American involvement to solve
RICE: Well, the prisoner issue is a very difficult one of course,
and I would hope that some progress could be made on that issue.
I think that progress will be made on that issue. I would not
presume to try and tell the parties which prisoners should be
released, this is a very difficult situation and difficult issue.
But I do think that as a part of a larger package, in which not
just the Israelis but the Palestinians make difficult choices
as well, that they will make progress on this very difficult issue.
In the long
run, the security of both Israelis and Palestinians will depend
on the ability of both sides to fight terror. On the ability to
have, as President Abbas has put it, one authority and one gun.
So, the re-unification of the Palestinian security forces, the
restruction of the security forces is something else that I think
the United States will be able to be helpful with the Palestinians.
My last question, please. Which guarantees can the American administration
grant to Chairman Abbas in order to achieve a cease-fire agreement
with the opposition Islamic movements.
RICE: The very best thing that we can say – I think that
the United States can say to President Abbas, is that we are working
very, very hard with everyone to try and give this new Palestinian
leadership a chance to make good decisions on behalf of the Palestinian
people. That will include financial support. It will include political
support. It will include training and security. It will include
efforts with other parties to get them to be active. One thing
that is very important is that the other parties in the region
support this Palestinian leadership, and they can do that in two
important ways. financial support: there are a number of states
that have made pledges to support the Palestinians financially
that have not been fulfilled. They need to be fulfilled. There
is also the matter of telling those who would try and disrupt
the process – that is the rejectionists, the terrorists
– that they will get no support from states i! n the region,
that they will get no support from the Europeans because in order
to have peace, everyone will have to make difficult decisions,
and that includes the Israelis, the Palestinians, the Arab neighbors,
the Europeans, and the United States.
Madame Secretary of the United States, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, thank
you very much for being with us.
RICE: Thank you.
Sharon: PA Must Do More to Stop Attacks
(IFM) Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said Friday afternoon that the
Palestinian Authority was not doing enough to curtail terror attacks
against Israel, and that the recent deployment of security forces
throughout the Gaza Strip, had not significantly contributed to
reducing terrorism, reports the Jerusalem Post. Sharon emphasized
that reviving the road map process would be possible only after
the Palestinians halt terrorist activities, dismantle terrorist
infrastructures and implement administrative reforms.
comments follow the Palestinians’ refusal of gestures made
by Israel to ease the resumption of dialogue between the two parties.
A Palestinian delegation walked out of a meeting with Sharon’s
advisor Dov Weisglass owing to Israel’s decision to release "only"
900 security prisoners. The PA delegation, which included Minister
Saeb Erekat and Mohammed Dahlan, demanded the release of some
eight thousand Palestinian prisoners incarcerated in Israeli prisons,
including detainees with "blood on their hands" whom
Israel has explicitly refused to release at this stage.
a four-way summit is to be held in Sharm el-Sheikh, hosted by
Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and attended by Prime Minister
Ariel Sharon, PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas and Jordan’s King Abdullah.
U.S. Could Train “Unified” Palestinian Security Forces
(IFM) U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said that the United
States was preparing to help train Palestinian security forces,
which, she emphasized, had to be unified under one body, Ha’Aretz
reported. "The Palestinian security forces need to be unified,"
Rice said at a press conference in London after meeting with British
Foreign Secretary Jack Straw. "There needs to be, as the
Palestinians themselves say, ‘one authority, one gun.’"
there will need to be some international effort, and the United
States is prepared to play a major role in that, to help in the
training of the Palestinian security forces and in making sure
that they are security forces that are part of the solution, not
part of the problem," she continued.
also limited the role of the United States in Israeli-Palestinian
talks, indicating she did not plan to attend next Tuesday’s Middle
East summit meeting in Egypt. "Not every effort has to be
an American effort," Rice said. "It is extremely important
that the parties themselves are taking responsibility."
the Secretary of State announced Friday that an attack on Iran
over its nuclear program was "not on the agenda at this point."
Remarks by U.S. State Department
Deputy Spokesman, Adam Ereli
Independent Inquiry Committee’s Interim Report on UN Oil
for Food Program Purpose for Establishing Oil for Food Program
2005 UN Commission on Human Rights Agenda
Arrest of Former Consular Associate on Charges of Bribery and
Visa Fraud Appointment of State Department Senior Officials /
Timing of Announcements Departure of Deputy Secretary Armitage
Finance Ministerial in London
Counterterrorism Conference in Saudi Arabia / US Inter-Agency
Delegation to Attend / Congressional Criticism Regarding US Attendance
Freedom House Report on Saudi Literature Promoting Hatred
Plane Crash in Afghanistan / Investigation Underway / Possible
American Citizens on Board
Kidnapping of Italian Journalist in Iraq Timing for Trial of Saddam
Hussein / Proceedings for Trial
Sharm el-Sheikh Summit / Israel, Palestinians, Egypt and Jordan
to Participate Prospects for Secretary Rice Attending Sharm Summit
Assistant Secretary Burns’ Travel to Region Secretary Rice’s
Travel to the Region
Withdraws Offer to Disarm
Reported North Korean Threat Against US Bases in Asia
Planning for US-Japan 2+2 Ministerial Meetings
Elections in Thailand This Weekend
Secretary General’s Recommendation to Create Peacekeeping
Tsunami Relief Efforts
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by U.S. State Department
Deputy Spokesman, Adam Ereli
12:50 p.m. EST
ERELI: Well, in the spirit of Friday, I don’t have any — since
it’s Friday, and we’re all TGIF-ing, I don’t have any announcements
to make and we’ll go to your questions.
QUESTION: Well, we’re not going to be laid back today. You have
a lot of ground to cover, including —
MR. ERELI: Oh, I’m not laid back.
QUESTION: No, no, I mean —
MR. ERELI: I just don’t have any announcements.
QUESTION: It’s not a half work day.
The scandal, the UN scandal, the Oil-for-Food scandal, initially,
when this broke, the State Department’s position was, whoever
administers this, whoever is in charge of this, is responsible
if any wrongdoing is found. So you have disclosures now by Mr.
Volcker, is that the end of it or do you think the UN Secretary
General has brought some responsibility to bear?
MR. ERELI: Well, the Secretary General, I think has been very
clear. He has said that, as chief administrative officer of the
UN, he holds himself responsible and accountable for its management.
He reiterated his commitment to take appropriate action against
individuals and entities that have violated the rules. And he,
himself, stated that measures need to be taken to remedy some
of the defects.
This is important. I think this is a clear statement of concern
and commitment and responsibility on the part of the leadership
of the United Nations, and we note that and we welcome that. And
let’s see what they do in terms of following up.
QUESTION: That sounds like mistakes were made. Obviously, you’d
like to repair anything that went wrong. But has there been enough
wrongdoing unearthed, uncovered that somebody who bears responsibility
should step down?
MR. ERELI: A couple of points to make: One is, it’s an interim
report. There is going to be another report looking at other aspects
of the program. So, frankly, I don’t want to — I don’t think
we’re in a position to come to any definitive conclusions until
the full accounting is done.
There are other investigations out there that we continue to cooperate.
There are congressional investigations. There are judicial investigations.
So, likewise, it wouldn’t be appropriate, I think, to make final
conclusions until we finish our cooperation and those investigations
Clearly, what we have as of today are serious charges regarding
the conduct of certain UN officials and recognition of the need
for broader management reforms and increased transparency. These
are things that we have advocated for a long time. I think that
when you take into account what the Committee has found and what
the Secretary General himself has said, we share a common desire
and a common commitment to full accounting and full accountability.
And that’s what’s going to guide our actions and our policies
throughout this process.
QUESTION: It sounds like you’re prepared to let people off the
hook and just mop afterwards — have a better system.
MR. ERELI: There’s nothing I said that would lead anyone to conclude
QUESTION: But why are you so — I don’t mean you, Adam. I mean
the State Department.
MR. ERELI: I’ll be clear. We believe in full accounting and full
accountability. That is what has guided our actions from the very
beginning: Supporting the creation of this Committee, cooperating
with this Committee and cooperating with the numerous other investigations
that are out there, and the long advocacy of management reforms
and transparency throughout the UN.
So I don’t see how you can get from that statement and that policy
and that position to the conclusion that we somehow want to let
people off the hook.
QUESTION: Paul Volcker — his stature is unquestioned. I mean,
he’s a man of integrity. Hasn’t he discerned, discovered enough
for the State Department to conclude that something is rotten
up at the UN, or is the State Department’s position is if anything’s
rotten, well, it ought to be fixed? I hear things about repairing
the UN. I don’t hear a thing — I don’t mean you, whoever writes,
whoever takes the — takes these decisions at the State Department.
There’s no State Department investigation that I know of. Senator
Coleman began this and you’re supporting that and you’re supporting
other things, you say. The State Department is not a bystander
in this Oil-for-Food program, you’re a participant. American money
MR. ERELI: Well, let’s be clear. The Oil — I’m sorry. The Oil-for-Food
program was administered by the United Nations —
MR. ERELI: — and by the office of — by offices of the United
Nations. It was not administered by the United States Government
or by the State Department.
QUESTION: Of course it wasn’t. We know that.
MR. ERELI: So the Security Council —
QUESTION: But the UN is —
MR. ERELI: Excuse me, excuse me. The Security Council — the Security
Council — was responsible for oversight and there’s plenty of
evidence, plenty of indications, that the United States, as a
member of the Security Council, was very attentive to its oversight
responsibilities and pushed the office responsible for this, for
the 661 Committee to act in a responsible way.
I’ll give you a couple of examples: The report found that UN auditors
lacked sufficient resources to effectively audit the Oil-for-Food
program and that the UN’s Office of Internal Oversight reporting
to the General Assembly on the activities of its internal audit
division was inadequate. The United States, as a member of the
United Nations, had long advocated additional resources and authorities
for the Office of Internal Oversight Services, and we also supported
a General Assembly resolution to bolster the offices’ transparency
and independence that enabled member-states to request and to
be provided with those offices’ reports.
So I think from the very beginning, our record is clear and our
record is to be commended: calling for an investigation, and during
the period of the Oil-for-Food Program, being consistent, being
persistent in calling attention to problems with the Oil-for-Food
Program, calling for corrective actions to be made and being very
clear about things that were happening that troubled us.
So I don’t see how there is any basis for concluding that somehow
we were either unaware or did not take action on problems that
were happening. And now that there is a report, I think it’s very
clear that we think that the report has provided a useful accounting,
an important accounting of how a program was mismanaged, and how
management controls were not in place, and that statements by
the Secretary General are to be welcomed that accountability will
be provided for.
QUESTION: I’ll let it go. But my question has been misunderstood,
perhaps badly phrased on my part. I’m saying the UN isn’t — doesn’t
exist on Mars. The UN is a creature of the United States, mostly
MR. ERELI: Barry —
QUESTION: — and many, many countries around the world.
MR. ERELI: The United Nations is an international organization
QUESTION: When the Clinton Administration was displeased —
MR. ERELI: — over 100 member states.
QUESTION: — with the UN Secretary General at the time, Boutros-Gali,
he was dead meat. He was gone. He was over. His career ended as
the — now whether it was right or wrong, you had the clout to
remove a Secretary General, besides asking for reform and watching
investigations and contributing to them.
What I’m asking — and I know the answer — is: Have you heard
enough that — for the United States to say, changes have to be
made in personnel at the UN, or do you need to know more?
MR. ERELI: I think this is an investigation that is not complete.
There are other investigations. We will continue to cooperate
with those investigations. We urge others to do so. We think the
findings to date are important, are noteworthy and call for management
reform and other actions, and we will continue to work with the
UN and others toward that goal.
QUESTION: While you did — while there is, you know, mention that
the United States, as a member of the 661 Committee, and other
countries on this 661 Committee did raise problems about some
of the pricing of some contracts, there is also evidence that
the 661 Committee let other contracts that turned out to be, you
know, involved in this scandal, let other contracts go through.
So when you say that you’re looking for a full accountability
and a full accounting, does that include your role and other countries’
role on the 661 Committee —
MR. ERELI: Sure.
QUESTION: — and how those contracts —
MR. ERELI: Sure. We welcome that inquiry and we think it’s important
that people understand what was done to — done and not done to
prevent cheating and — by Saddam through the Oil-for-Food Program.
QUESTION: So I mean, are you looking on your own role on the oversight
of this committee?
MR. ERELI: Well, we’re not investigating ourselves.
QUESTION: Well, do you plan on it as a result of this report,
on how you can make best practices?
MR. ERELI: No, I don’t — I think what we’re doing is cooperating
with the Volcker committee, cooperating with the congressional
committees who have — who are concerned that structures set up
under the United Nations auspices were not properly administered
and did not function consistent with their goals and consistent
with acceptable practices. And to the extent that the 661 Committee
in its actions and its decisions contributed to that malfunctioning,
then we are — then we are — we think the light should be shone
on that aspect of the issue.
QUESTION: Adam, there’s a second scandal involving the State Department.
There’s a consular associate that’s under arrest here in Washington,
denied bail for permitting bribes to take place in Armenia. And
what are the rules and regulations concerning issuing visas? And,
of course —
QUESTION: Can you tell him about the associates and —
MR. ERELI: The — I know, I know, I know. You want the rules of
issuing visas? Well, that’s quite a mouthful because it’s governed
by congressional legislation and depending on what the purpose
for travel is and what — who the person is. So I couldn’t really
get into that broad topic in the context of this briefing.
If you’re asking about the specific case, I can tell you something
about that. A Mr. Piotr Parlej, who is a 45-year-old American
citizen, he formerly worked as a consular associate in the U.S.
Embassy in Yerevan, was arrested yesterday on charges of bribery
and visa fraud. He was arrested by Diplomatic Security agents
and taken into custody at the Department of State. The gentleman
is suspected of taking bribes in exchange for issuing fraudulent
visas at our Embassy in Yerevan, and he will — he is scheduled
to appear before a United States Magistrate Judge today.
It is, since it’s an ongoing investigation, I’d refer you to the
U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia for more information.
QUESTION: Can we go back to the UN oil program? There are all
sorts of large estimates as to how much Saddam Hussein stole by
virtue of this program. One of the networks yesterday — I think
it was NBC, but I may be wrong — spoke of over a billion dollars.
You know, again, was the U.S. watching?
But putting that aside for a moment, do you have any estimate
of how much Saddam Hussein and his pals were able to get out of
the thing? The people went hungry.
MR. ERELI: Yeah.
QUESTION: Children died.
MR. ERELI: Yeah.
QUESTION: This was a program the U.S. helped organize out of charity,
out of grace, out of concern that the sanctions were hurting innocent
people. So you set this thing up with the UN, or the UN sets it
up with you, and as a result it’s corruption on one end and it’s
corruption on the other end, and the people are the victims. What’s
new? That always happens. But any — how much did he come off
with? Do you have any idea?
MR. ERELI: I don’t have a specific figure available to share with
you. In fact, I think it’s very difficult to get a really clear
picture of how much he might have skimmed off because of the shadowy
nature of the deals and the complex nature of the transactions.
But I think there are a couple of important points to make because
you talk about suffering of the Iraqi people and failure of the
program. It’s important to remember a couple of things.
First of all, why was this program created? The reason the program
was created was because Saddam Hussein refused to sell oil and
refused to buy food and necessities for his own people. He was
the one who was deliberately starving the Iraqi people in defiance
of international — UN Security Council resolutions.
So the Security Council came up with this program, the Oil-for-Food
program, that provided a mechanism for getting goods to the people
of Iraq. And although it wasn’t perfect, although it was subject
to manipulation by Saddam, it did accomplish — it did accomplish
some significant and noteworthy things, particularly in, as I
said before, providing food, providing medicine, and providing
needed humanitarian items to the people of Iraq.
So I don’t think one should look at it solely in terms of — one
should not let the corruption and the distortion of the program
completely overshadow the fact that it did, to an important extent,
serve the purposes for which it was designed. Was it perfect?
Was it free of manipulation? No. But did it help? Yes.
QUESTION: Adam, there is a meeting in London, the G-8 International
Financing Facility Summit, and Nelson Mandela has addressed the
group. He’s saying there seems to be a chasm between the rich
and the poor countries; and also, the UK seems to be at odds with
what the United States wants to project. This is a dispute between
grants versus loans. Do you have anything to say concerning that?
MR. ERELI: Not really. We look forward to joining our G-7 colleagues
at this meeting early next week. We look forward to the opportunity
to address this very important issue. And I think that we are
working now to arrive at a consensus of views that I think will,
you know, benefit everybody. But I don’t have, really, the details
of those kinds of discussions to share with you now.
QUESTION: And also, a second meeting’s about to concur — or to
develop tomorrow morning in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. They are hosting
50 nations, officials with a counterterrorism-type summit over
MR. ERELI: Yes.
QUESTION: To what extent will the United States take part?
MR. ERELI: The United States will have an important delegation
there led by the President’s National Security — Deputy National
Security Advisor for Counterterrorism, Dr. Townsend, Mrs. Townsend.
And participating from the State Department will be our Assistant
Secretary for Economic Affairs, Anthony Wayne.
I think the strength of our delegation is a symbol or a signal
of the importance we attach to this conference, the importance
(a) that it’s in Saudi Arabia, and (b) that it involves such a
large gathering of experts from around the world, and (c) the
significance of the topic under discussion.
So we are going there in strength. We are going to be looking
at ways that we can work with all of our partners in the international
community to strengthen our efforts to fight the common threat
of terror through the control of financial flows, the sharing
of information between law enforcement intelligence agencies,
the concerted effort by law enforcement to act on the basis of
that information and other ways that, working together, we can
get this problem under control.
MR. ERELI: Mm-hmm.
QUESTION: Did you ever get an answer for the question that’s been
hanging for several days about the Freedom House report?
MR. ERELI: I don’t have an update on that for you. The last time
we talked about it, we said we’d be looking at the report. We
also noted that the investigation into what activity — what materials
were distributed to whom and what laws or regulations were violated
was not a State Department investigation; it was an investigation
that would be done by other agencies. We have not heard back.
So I’m not in a position to tell you that the — what Freedom
House reported is something that we have come to a conclusion
that there’s been wrongdoing done by diplomatic establishments.
QUESTION: So you don’t have any opinion as yet on the merits of
their conclusion that the Saudi Government participated in the
propagation of hate propaganda in American mosques?
MR. ERELI: I do not.
QUESTION: New topic.
MR. ERELI: Yes.
QUESTION: Can you say anything about the Americans that were killed
in the plane crash in Afghanistan?
MR. ERELI: The first point to make, I think, is that Afghan and
ISAF officials are still investigating; search and rescue operations,
as far as I understand, are still underway.
QUESTION: Search and rescue or search and recovery?
MR. ERELI: Search and recovery. I think search and rescue is a
generic term, but —
QUESTION: Okay, sorry.
MR. ERELI: But those activities associated with an airplane crash
are underway. So I don’t have any definitive reports for you about
what they found out. Our initial indications were that six American
citizens were on board the plane at the time of the crash. We
are in contact, obviously, with our Embassy in Kabul to be kept
up to date. But we have not been able to identify remains or otherwise
confirm those initial indications.
QUESTION: Have you been in touch with the families?
MR. ERELI: Yes.
QUESTION: Do you have anything — please say something about the
Italian journalist kidnapped this morning in Iraq. And I have
another question about Iraq.
MR. ERELI: Okay. We’ve seen the same reports that you have. As
is customary in these cases, we, to the extent that we’re requested,
will cooperate fully with the governments concerned, both through
the MNFI as well as whatever assistance we can provide through
I can’t give you an update on the status of this case simply because
we’re not the ones with all the information. But what I can tell
you is that, obviously, when innocent people who are doing important
work in Iraq are kidnapped, this is an experience that we certainly
— and our citizens have certainly had to go through, unfortunately,
and we both sympathize and cooperate, to the extent we can, with
friendly nations who find themselves in similar situations.
QUESTION: And the other question is, could you, on a scale of
one to ten — no, let’s make it zero to ten because this question
might need a zero — is that level of satisfaction for the big
victory of the Sistani list?
MR. ERELI: I would not even begin to offer comment on a process
that is still very much underway and results are partial and preliminary,
and therefore I think it’s certainly premature for us to begin
commenting on what — on something that remains to be completed.
QUESTION: Thank you.
MR. ERELI: Reporters Without Borders says that China, Cuba and
Zimbabwe have been selected to a panel which will decide which
cases the UN Human Rights Commission should take up when it convenes
next month for their annual meeting. Do you have any observation
MR. ERELI: I had not heard that. It sounds hard to swallow, but
let me see what I can find out about what our understanding of
who’s been chosen to be on such a panel and what our reaction
QUESTION: What, at this point, will the U.S. representation, if
any, be at the Sharm el-Sheikh talks?
MR. ERELI: My understanding is we’ll be represented by an official
from our Embassy. I think it’s important to point out that we
will not be a participant in the Sharm summit. The participants
will be Israel, the Palestinians, Egypt and Jordan. This meeting
was organized by the parties involved. And so they’ll be responsible
for the details and the logistics and our presence at the summit
will be, I think, marginal.
QUESTION: Can you, if you’re able to, go into the reasoning behind
that a bit? Is it the feeling they’re doing pretty well on their
own and they’re on a roll, or is there a feeling that this is
a preliminary phase and doesn’t require or call for high-profile
You know, with the Secretary of State in the region, you know,
I guess a lot of people might wonder, she’s a half hour away,
or will be, why wouldn’t she just pop over because she said she
wants to be personally engaged. Here we go. Here’s a chance.
MR. ERELI: Well, a number of points to make.
QUESTION: All right.
MR. ERELI: I wouldn’t construe the — I wouldn’t conclude from
the American presence, or lack thereof, at this summit — I wouldn’t
draw any conclusions about the degree of commitment and degree
of involvement of the United States in helping Israelis and Palestinians
resolve their differences.
Assistant Secretary Burns will be leaving today for visits to
Egypt and Jordan in preparation for the Secretary’s visit. The
Secretary will be visiting later this week. The Secretary will
also be going to London, as she said today, to help work with
the Europeans, work with the Palestinians in building Palestinian
institutions capable of meeting their responsibilities to govern
the Palestinian people.
We will also be working — we have been working closely — with
the Egyptians, with the Jordanians and with the others in engaging
them in ways that they can help support the Israelis and Palestinians
as Israel withdraws from Gaza and parts of the West Bank and as
the Palestinians develop the institutions and practices to exercise
authority over land vacated.
This summit is part of that effort. This summit is an example
of the parties themselves working together to support a goal that
we all share, a goal that we’ve discussed with the parties. It’s
a move that we’ve certainly supported. We’ve certainly, I think,
been part of the thinking. But you don’t have to be at every gathering
at the highest level to be a player and to be a part of the solution.
QUESTION: Minor thing, maybe, but is the U.S. picking up the check
in any way —
MR. ERELI: Not that I’m aware of.
QUESTION: — for these delegations?
MR. ERELI: Not that I’m aware of.
QUESTION: Can you provide any indication about when Saddam might
go on trial?
MR. ERELI: No, I’d refer you to the Iraqi tribunal for that.
QUESTION: Can you say anything more about the process and what
are the impediments? Is there anything going to happen in 2005?
He’s been arrested for almost 14 months.
MR. ERELI: Well, a couple of points to make. First of all, this
is a process that is in the hands of the Iraqi authorities. They
are in a much better position than I am to answer questions about
where they are in preparations for bringing Saddam Hussein, as
well as others in custody, to trial for crimes committed.
We, as you know, primarily through the Department of Justice and
through our Embassy, have been working with the Iraqis in helping
to set up the tribunal and help developing the capacities to carry
out a judicial action of this scope and this complexity. And we
continue to do that; we continue to work with them. I don’t think
that if you look at other proceedings, other such similar proceedings
that 14 months is an overly long time, especially when you’re
starting from scratch the way the Iraqis were.
So they’re moving forward. We’re supporting them. The international
community as a whole is supporting them. There are others that
are working with the Iraqis. It’s not something that’s going to
happen overnight. It’s important that a couple of very key principles
be respected, and that those principles are transparency. And
you don’t want to rush through things, you don’t want to do things
that can’t withstand the scrutiny of outside examination. So they’re
deliberate. They’re purposeful. And we’re helping them. But as
far as a timetable, you’ll have to talk to the Iraqis.
QUESTION: Would you assume it might be this year?
MR. ERELI: I’m not going to make any assumptions.
MR. ERELI: Yes.
QUESTION: The IRA is balking again at disarming. Do you have any
MR. ERELI: The Provisional Irish Republican Army stated on February
2nd that it is withdrawing its offer to disarm. We believe that
this statement is unwelcome. We share the view of the British
and Irish prime ministers that the continuation of paramilitarism
and associated criminality remain the central obstacle to a lasting
and durable peace in Northern Ireland. And we believe that all
paramilitary groups in Northern Ireland should follow through
on the Good Friday Agreement commitments to the decommissioning
of all weapons.
QUESTION: Are they the only ones balking? Are they the only problem,
if you happen to know?
MR. ERELI: I believe that they’re the biggest problem.
QUESTION: About one week ago, I asked a question about the Chinese
official Jia Qinglin’s policy speech on Taiwan, and the answer
was that people here are studying it. Do you have any more on
MR. ERELI: No, I don’t. I don’t.
QUESTION: Okay. Did you see a report about North Korea threatening
to attack U.S. bases in Asia?
MR. ERELI: No, I hadn’t seen that report.
QUESTION: So you’re —
MR. ERELI: I hadn’t.
QUESTION: Okay. We’ll try one more. I don’t know if — or maybe
this is a little too far anyway. I don’t know if you can comment
on a meeting between U.S. and Japan in about two weeks over here
about U.S.-Japan security alliance.
MR. ERELI: I believe that plans are being drawn up for such a
meeting. These are the "2+2" ministerials. I don’t have
a final date to announce for you, but I think preparations are
QUESTION: No more elaboration?
MR. ERELI: No more.
QUESTION: One last thing. Do you have a new Assistant Secretary
for East Asia yet?
MR. ERELI: Nothing to announce.
QUESTION: Just to touch on that a little bit. This morning, I
realized that maybe it’s not unprecedented, but we’re well into
a new Administration but a lot of posts — in some cases we have
parallel officials, in some cases —
MR. ERELI: Where do we have parallel officials?
QUESTION: Well, we’ve got — I mean, we have — we’ve got an incoming
and an outgoing spokesman, for instance, traveling with the Secretary.
Fair enough. More information for the press, right?
MR. ERELI: Yeah, there’s —
QUESTION: They can listen in on all the interviews with David
Frost and tell us what happened. But here’s — you know, the point
is there are people, presumably, lined up for some major jobs.
There are people who have sent in their resignations several weeks
ago. Do you know when there’s going to be that wholesale — we’re
not rushing anybody out of here, but when does this happen?
MR. ERELI: This is a process that is common to every transition.
This transition is no exception. You have officials who resign,
and when you ask about those officials, if they’ve submitted their
resignation, we tell you. They will be — those resignations that
have been given will — some have already taken effect. Some will
be taking effect in the coming weeks or months. As people leave,
there are acting assistant secretaries or acting directors who
are very capable of getting the job done until a successor is
nominated by the President and confirmed by the Congress. That
is — I can’t comment on that because that is a process that has
to go through the, you know, required steps. And when those steps
are complete, nominations are announced. And again, it has a momentum
and a timing all its own, but something that we go through every
four years and really shouldn’t come as much of a surprise to
anybody who’s been around covering this as long as you have.
QUESTION: No, but I mean — well, and I can’t remember. This is
Bush II. This isn’t like the Democrats are succeeding the Republicans
or vice versa. This is the same President and he’s juggled his
cabinet. The new cabinet officers are in and the ones that are
leaving are gone.
MR. ERELI: Right.
QUESTION: We have some very nice people here, who, as far as I’m
concerned, I wish would stay forever, but they’ve resigned and
they’re still carrying on the job. And you have some nice people,
competent people, who everybody knows is going to get their jobs
and they’re in far distant posts right now and there’s no indication
that they’re about to move their football helmets into their offices.
So I’m just puzzled by it. I mean, I don’t think it’s unusual
MR. ERELI: It will all take place in due course with minimum disruption.
MR. ERELI: Yes, sir.
QUESTION: Thailand is holding elections on Sunday. There’s lots
of violence there. Do you have any comment?
MR. ERELI: I’m afraid I don’t. I will ask our folks if they do
have a comment and see if I can’t get you something.
QUESTION: All right. Since you couldn’t answer that one, is Secretary
MR. ERELI: Yes.
QUESTION: No follow-up paragraph to that yes?
MR. ERELI: Is he finished? He is no longer serving as Deputy Secretary
of State, is my understanding.
QUESTION: Is Mr. Bolton still in service?
MR. ERELI: Mr. Bolton is still in service.
QUESTION: Who’s the acting Deputy? Marc Grossman?
MR. ERELI: There is none.
QUESTION: Is Marc Grossman still in —
MR. ERELI: Marc Grossman is still in the job.
QUESTION: So then he’s effectively running the building while
the Secretary is away?
MR. ERELI: He is, I guess, the senior official in the building.
QUESTION: Adam, the UN has announced that they are sending 10,130
army-type troops into what was eastern Sudan with regard to the
agreement that was signed months ago, and 755 civilian police.
Under the circumstances with the fighting and potential genocide
in western Darfur, should that be enlarged to encompass the west
of the country as well? The Russians have already announced they’re
going to deploy troops.
MR. ERELI: Yeah, I think you’re getting a little bit ahead of
yourself. What the Secretary General has done, has recommended,
he has recommended the creation of a UN mission in Sudan that
would include peacekeeping under Chapter 6 of the UN Charter as
well Chapter 7 authority for protection of civilians under imminent
threat of violence. The purpose of this mission would be to monitor
the implementation of the January 9th peace agreement. That includes
monitoring the movement of armed groups, voluntary disarmament
and liaising with the African Union.
The United States believes that a UN peacekeeping mission in support
of the north-south ceasefire and the peace process in Sudan is
justified and necessary. We will be working with the Secretary
General and our other Security Council colleagues on a resolution
to create such a mission.
As far as Darfur goes, as I said, the immediate mandate of this
mission is the implementation of the January 9th peace agreement.
Obviously, broader expansion of this mission into Darfur at the
appropriate time and in coordination with the African Union is
something that we think is important and necessary.
Thank you. Oh, I’m sorry. We have one question. Sorry. Luis.
QUESTION: Last question on the tsunami. Has there been an increase
in the level of spending or commitment for the 350 million that
was committed to aid and tsunami relief?
MR. ERELI: I’ll get back to you with the exact figures of what
we have spent to date. As you know, we have obtained $350 million,
budgeted $350 million, for tsunami relief and we have been drawing
down on that amount as we deal with the crisis. I don’t have the
exact figure of where we are today in terms of what — how much
of that 350 million we’ve spent. It’s significant, but I’ll have
to get you the exact figure. And obviously, we are looking ahead
to the longer term and more expensive reconstruction and rehabilitation
requirements, and I expect we’ll be coming forward with some assessments
of what will be needed for that in the near future.
QUESTION: Will that be coming down in the budget request this
MR. ERELI: Pardon?
QUESTION: Will that be coming down in the budget request next
MR. ERELI: I don’t — I’m not sure. And taken question, yeah,
we’ll post the amount spent.
QUESTION: Can I ask one last question? Adam, one last question?
MR. ERELI: Yes, sure.
QUESTION: Getting back to the terror conference. There’s been
some criticism on Capitol Hill that the U.S. is participating
in a conference that includes three countries that are on the
State Department’s list of Sponsors of Terror —
MR. ERELI: Yeah.
QUESTION: — including, namely, Iran, Syria and Sudan. And I think
Senator Lautenberg has sent a letter to President Bush saying
that this just defies common sense.
MR. ERELI: Right.
QUESTION: What’s your reaction to that?
MR. ERELI: I’ve not seen that letter and I think that our participation
in this conference will — it certainly is intended to, and I
think, will strengthen counterterrorism cooperation, and certainly
will not, in any way, lead to looking the other way or condoning
or in other — in any other way sanctioning — or approving what
countries who support terrorism do.
QUESTION: Thank you.